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In this episode of frankly…

Racheland Dan are joined by Hussein Zaarour, vice president of automotive and head of Detroit for HAAS Alert, to explore how V2X (vehicle-to-everything) communication is reshaping mobility and saving lives  

From an engineering background to business development roles at Hyundai, Harman and iHeartRadio, Hussein now leads HAAS Alert’s work at the Newlab campus. He shares how the city’s legacy, talent and community are driving innovation in connected transportationand why Detroit is uniquely positioned to shape the future of mobility. 

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Transcript

Dan

Hello, welcome to frankly.

Rachel

Hello, welcome back to frankly.

Dan

Yeah. So today we are talking with Hussein Zaarour, who is the head of Detroit and VP of Automotive for HAAS Alert. HASS Alert is based over in the Newlab building over in Cork Town in kind of the Michigan Central area, so. That name is probably familiar to you if you’ve listened for a while.

Rachel

Yes.

Dan

We’ve we’ve crossed paths with a few guests from that ecosystem call it, but really interesting technology, so they they work with emergency emergency service providers

Rachel

And OEMs.

Dan

And OEMS, cities to help vehicles talk with each other basically.

Rachel

Yep.

Dan

And avoid unnecessary safety.

Rachel

And. Yeah, that was very simply put

Dan

Yeah.

Rachel

Thing goes into more detail, but really at the crux it is making the roads safer for everybody involved.

Dan

Yeah, there’s there’s much more to it, but that’s that’s how I can put it in three seconds or however long. Yeah.

Rachel

Yes, that’s fair. That’s fair. That’s fair. And he has such an interesting background. I mean, he’s very well educated. He goes through it, but he has 2 masters degrees. He’s an engineer by trade, kind of turned business development guy and I mean you’ll tell by his personality, he’s great at that.

Dan

Yeah.

Rachel

Very smart with the engineering brain. So a a fun conversation about the city of Detroit, the Automotive World, why Detroit really is the future of automotive and really Newlab is where you are gonna find a lot of that stuff too.

Dan

Yeah. Exactly

Rachel

So with that, welcome Hussein.

Dan

Hi Hussein. Welcome to frankly, thanks for coming.

Hussein

Thank you for having me. Appreciate you all.

Dan

Yeah, so, so we always start with. What about your background, your career path that led you to where you are today with HASS Alert?

Hussein

Sounds good. So we’re going to go back to where I was born, right? Born in Detroit and been in the Detroit ecosystem my whole life, pretty much. So the the motor, the Motor City is truly in my DNA.

Rachel and DAn

Mm-hmm.

Hussein

Yeah. And so after so. So my, my, my, my educational path right outside of Detroit and going into you know elementary and middle whatever but I got a bachelor’s degree in electrical and computer engineering from Wayne State University, also in Detroit.

Rachel

Yeah.

Dan

Yeah.

  1. So then from there, after I graduated, the path took me to Hyundai.

Dan

OK.

Hussein

Hyundai in Ypsilanti. Yeah. So so HATCHI i that it’s it’s pronounced HATCHI, but because it stands for Hyundai America Technical Center Inc.

Dan

Ohh OK OK.

Rachel

Ohh yeah, I’ve seen that.

Hussein

After my my my path at Hyundai, I decided to get a Master of Computer Engineering. I debated between Wayne State and U of M, ended up going to U of M so just to get a just change it up from.

Rachel

Try something different.

Dan

Mix it up a little bit.

Hussein

Yeah, exactly. And then from U of M, I decided to get deeper into the technical world and so I got a job with Harmon in Farmington.

Rachel and Dan
Yeah.

Hussein

There I was a solution, sorry not a solution, a software engineer and that took me down a path after I got my Masters in Computer Engineering I went to IHeartRadio.

Dan

Yeah.

Hussein

iHeartRadio was maybe like one of my peak experiences in my career.

Dan

Really nice.

Hussein

Not automotive, you know, radio.

Rachel

Yeah, you took like, one step out. Yeah. Like one toe out to come back.

Hussein

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And it was a. It was, I reported to New York. City. OK, so I would go to New York City every a it was every month, almost every month. And just to just the whole like energy in New York and the iHeartRadio world and the culture of iHeartRadio had nothing to do with automotive at all.

Dan

Yeah, very different.

Hussein

So I know we’re, we’re we’re being recorded, so I don’ want to say what was going on at iHeartRadio, right, yeah.

Rachel

That’s fair. That’s fair.

Dan

But a little different.

Hussein

Right. And so I but I worked at the at the iHeartRadio in here in Metro Detroit. So with 955, yeah, yeah.

Rachel

Yep. It was in Farmington at the time. They’re downtown now, yeah.

Hussein

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s right.

Dan

Yeah, yeah, I works at Grand Rapids iHeart, which was Clear Channel at the time. But that was my very first job, very first internship.

Hussein

That’s right. I realized that when I was looking at your your LinkedIn, that’s right. Him and I had crossed paths very likely

Rachel

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hussein

Subtly, right. What? What just happened right now? From there, I interviewed with a company out of Seattle, OK, and of course, but I was always in. Detroit. So because I was always leading the Detroit efforts cuz Detroit is the automotive.

Rachel

Yeah, it’s actually a good. I feel like not to interrupt you, but like a good sell for if you are in this area and there’s a company that is somewhere else, but they are trying to build up an automotive practice, it’s actually good sell for you with your roots in Detroit and connections to automotive to say I’ll join on and I’ll stay here and I’ll build this up for you.

Dan

Right, you will be your face for the auto industry .

Rachel

It’s a good way to sell yourself.

Hussein

Spot on and that’s exactly how it just naturally happened. I wasn’t intending that, but karma, I’m a big believer of karma, by the way. You do good, you get good. OK. So just it it just guided me there. So what happened in the interview with Zeevo was I interviewed with with my manager his name is Timo and I I I attribute all my next career success to him and he interviewed me over dinner and he’s like. Why are you doing engineering? You’re a freaking sales guy. Look at you. You just you sell yourself. You just walk around selling yourself. And I’m like, what are you talking about? What are you talking? He’s like you should do business development and you should represent us here in the metro Detroit area and boom that world just.

Dan

Like just opened up

Rachel

He gave you the idea and you were like, wait.

Hussein

And then that’s when right as I started with Zeevo. It was a great experience with Zeevo. And then I got my MBA because of that.

Rachel and Dan

OK,

Hussein

So my methods of engineering led me to Timo. Timo led me to MBA and then from there Zeevo got acquired by Lear Corporation and I I was. I joined Lear for like two or three years. I can’t remember but then then I decided to do something bigger. And something more meaningful. OK. And that’s where HASS Alert came into, came into the play, right?

Dan

Yeah.

Rachel

Yeah. Talk about HASS Alert a little bit. Give a little background on what you’re doing, why it exists.

Hussein

HASS Alert started when one of our founders almost got struck and killed pretty much by an emergency vehicle that he did not hear.

Dan

Wow, yeah.

Hussein

We were talking about riding motorcycles, he was on his.

Dan

Ohh that’s terrifying.

Hussein

And he didn’t hear the the the EMS vehicle literally behind him.

Dan

Yeah.

Hussein

So of course he made it out and he got this idea. Yeah, sorry about that one.

Dan

Oh, no you are good.

Hussein

And his idea was how can we inform the drivers about an emergency vehicle approaching?

Dan

Right.

Rachel

Yeah.

Hussein

Or whatever, right?

Rachel

Well, I would think two people that have hearing disabilities or hearing loss like there’s bigger needs too, than even just.

Dan

Yeah.

Hussein

You are spot on. Damn. Because we’re gonna get there. Oh, God, that’s awesome. So originally what happened was they designed it in a way where they wanted it. They wanted the car and or the motorcycle to hear the emergency vehicle. But then with sound and noise and all that stuff, it didn’t work out and then they they got on to networked V2X.

Rachel

Okay.

Hussein

  1. But before I get to network V2X we just we need to. They are all in Chicago, right? But when they kicked off the company, they kicked it off in Detroit.

Dan

Hmm, OK.

Hussein

Before they had a building and they got business.

Dan

Right before they moved here.

Hussein

Before they moved here.

Dan

This is where they wanted to launch.

Hussein

Right. Then what happened was they needed a building, and then Chicago gave them a grant, right? So Detroit wasn’t at the time giving grants or anything. Like that but now, 6-7 years later, right Hussein joins and boom, what are we doing in Detroit, let’s do Detroit. Exactly.

Rachel

Yeah, popping off is what you do.

Hussein

Exactly. So the goal of HASS Alert is to exactly inform drive. There’s that. There’s a there’s an. There’s a hazard or there’s a situation going on and to wake up the distracted driver.

Rachel

Yeah

Dan

Right.

Hussein

So now the way we’re doing it is we are communicating between the source, which is a fire truck or construction zone or a tow truck to the vehicle.

Dan

Right.

Hussein

OK, that is what we’re doing and that’s what we’re all about. And now we officially, as you all you know, realizing we’re growing deeper into Detroit.

Dan

Yeah.

Hussein

We’re all about that.

Dan

Yeah, so, so you know, as we’re talking here, just last week, you were announced as the new head of Detroit for HASS Alert. Great. So which congratulations by the way.

Hussein

Thank you.

Dan

But what does? What does that mean for the company? I guess you know, what does HASS Alert see in Detroit to kind of create this bigger presence here or what’s kind of the the the background behind that

Hussein

HASS Alerts first POC was in Detroit. They actually won the award, the Tech Stars award.

Dan

Ohh yeah OK.

Hussein

So that was a big deal for them.

Dan

Yeah.

Hussein

But then they realized, OK, we can’t grow a team here at the time. So then when they but then as they grew, right, and they became successful. Ohh, by the way, something else our first customer was Grand Rapids.

Dan

Ohh OK cool. Yeah.

Hussein

This was eight years ago and there’s still a customer really.

Rachel

Oh, that’s cool.

Hussein

OK, so.

Rachel

It’s a good midway between Chicago and Detroit.

Hussein

That’s right, that’s right. And they believed in HASS Alert from the beginning.

Rachel

Yeah, right, right.

Hussein

So how can you protect our fire Department’s fire engine?

Rachel

That was the question I was gonna ask and sorry for maybe not being as up. As I should. Who is? Is it the emergency vehicles that are purchasing from you or is it the OEM’s or tiers to put it into the vehicles? How how do we?

Dan

Everybody.

Hussein

Right. That’s a that’s a great question. So Grand Rapids, Fire, Police, EMS, right or the cities fire, they will purchase hardware or software.,

Rachel

OK.

Hussein

From HASS Alert and then OEMs will purchase a software.

Rachel

Yes.

Hussein

And so we communicate those two, those two communicate with each other. The goal is to connect all the the different V2X entities and let me explain V2X real quick. V2X stands for a vehicle-to-everything communication.

Rachel

  1. OK, got it. Great.

Hussein

The goal is to connect all the the different V2X entities and let me explain V2X real quick.

Rachel

Great.

Hussein

V2X stands for a vehicle-to-everything communication. And our goal is to connect the disconnected world of a user’s drive and communicate that to decrease the 40,000 plus deaths a year to 0. That’s the goal, right? Like all the other, like all the other OEM’s, right?

Dan

Yes.

Hussein

0 deaths, 0 crashes, 0 emissions.

Rachel

Well, and nowadays with cars being basically a big computer and all the over the air updates that you can send to them, I feel like an OEM could implement this very easily across their fleets at anytime really because you just have to push a software.

Hussein

Our first Rachel, you’re you’re like man 1 after another. So. So the the the simplicity of this is is exactly the way you explained it. Yeah, Stellantis is our first OEM customer, right. We were able to launch with 2018 and newer cars.

Rachel

  1. Yeah.

Hussein

So think about that right, 2018 is like 6 years. Seven years ago, right? But because our our technology is so simple to integrate and it’s all OT aid, we’re able to launch and communicate between a fire truck and a Stellantis vehicle 2018 and newer.

Rachel and Dan

OK.

Hussein

We have other customers too but.

Dan

Yeah, and and you work also through like Waze, for example, right, like the more the wayfinding or the map?

Hussein

Right. So so we work with Waze at to. We actually started with Waze, cause Waze was consuming all of our data.

Rachel

Yeah.

Hussein

OEM’s didn’t didn’t see the vision. OK. The difference between integrating it with ways and and and the OEM native is the fact that going back to your comment earlier with respect to accessibility.

Rachel

Yeah.

Hussein

We can access a seat and actually vibrate the seat.

Dan

OK, kind of like haptics going on.

Rachel

Yeah.

Hussein

Exactly. It’s a haptic feedback that we get. When I was at Lear, I actually worked on on haptics. Yeah. So so you received the signal from the fire truck and then boom, you feel that vibration in the seat, right whats going on? That’s just one example, but also the native experience with respect to the map or the cluster or the the head unit is the better experience that we’re trying to get into the OEMs.

Dan

OK.

Hussein

So Stellantis

Rachel

Second, evolution kind of a thing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hussein

Exactly.

Rachel

Yep that makes sense.

Hussein

Exactly. And so and it’s it’s it’s kicked off, right. So there’s 3-4 total OEM’s right now.

Rachel

That is awesome.

Hussein

And we’re we’re we’re growing out of Detroit.

Dan

That’s awesome. So talking about growing in Detroit, you are in the Newlab, relatively new, the Newlab building, which is part of the whole Michigan central kind of new mobility environment down in Cork Town. Talk a little bit about what it’s like to. To be part of that kind of community of mobility, startups and and companies, and just being in that core town, kind of like innovation zone, what is what is that like? What’s the sense of community like over there?

Hussein

The powerful thing of being part of Newlab is the community. They all are looking out for each other.

Dan

Yeah.

Rachel

Mhmm.

Hussein

Right. So we were in a big a big meeting with the mayor.

Dan OK.

Hussein

And there was, I would say, probably around 20 companies. I would say 15 of them were from Newlab.

Dan

Wow.

Hussein

OK, all startups all and they and they all vouch for each other.

Dan

Yeah.

Hussein

OK, so one of the companies that I like to call out is SP. Ron whose their CEO is all about the community and making sure everybody is successful trying to figure out how to help you grow

Rachel

The synergies right is our synergies between the companies, yeah.

Hussein

Yes, always and sometimes when you even realize your synergies, when you just have a conversation boom, you realize like Oh my God, like there’s another company that’s are are one of one of the labs there is Shanduka.

Dan

OK,

Hussein

I think that’s how you pronounce it.

Rachel

OK.

Hussein

And he’s a he’s a motorcycle, you know all about motorcycles and changing the motorcycle engine to make it, you know, battery powered. And so we’re all. And we were, we were all. We always try to promote each other. So we were at an event up in Troy and we didn’t realize, like, Oh my God, all all the new, almost like 4 of the five companies were there and boom, we just start, you know, integrating with each other. So, so Newlab and it exposes you to a lot.

Dan

Oh, yeah

Hussein

As a startup, you want exposure, right

Rachel

Yes.

Hussein

And so Newlab and Michigan Central they they’re they like try to figure out how to promote your product, promote your company, promote what you’re doing your vision. Right. Because that’s all. That’s what it’s about, right? Making Detroit safer, making much of Detroit safer, right? Making. And that that’s from that’s from a HASS Alert perspective.

Dan

Right.

Rachel

Well, bringing innovation to the city. I mean, Detroit’s always been about it’s that’s why we’ve developed cars and cars are still developed here is because of the innovation that that there is so adding other factors that like safety or just any kind of innovation is good for the city. I mean, and Ford’s buy into Michigan Central if it’s got to do with mobility, they want it even more. Right. I mean.

Hussein

Yeah, yeah.

Rachel

It’s in their best interest. Yep, you’re.

Hussein

Yeah, you’re 100% right. And and the the advantage that we get as members of Newlab is the exposure, right?

Rachel

MMM.

Hussein

So it’s it’s been, we’ve been there for a over year and a year and a half now. So pretty much been started and it’s just been you know.

Dan

Yeah, yeah.

Hussein

And it’s just been you know just amazing smooth sailing from there.

Dan

Yeah, very cool. So, so we talked about, you know, we talked a little bit about Detroit always having this kind of like innovative look at at automotive. But as the as as the meaning of that changes as the meaning of like innovation and automotive changes we talked about being a more software to find vehicles and things like that. How do you see Detroit spot in that growing in the future or you know, where do you see? Do you see our role changing or do you see it just growing?

Hussein

You’re you’re asking a very deep question without realizing it, but I’m I’m gonna touch on.

Dan

Yeah.

Hussein

OEMs for some reason are reaching out to the West Coast for a lot of their experts. Yeah, but I’m going to tell OEM’s this. They are underestimating the power of Detroit made engineers, designers, workers, we know what it takes to build a product to build a innovative machine, right?

Rachel

We have literally years and generations of history of doing it. Yeah, I mean, everyone here is 1 degree of separation from the industry, not even 2.

Dan

Right.

Hussein

That’s right. That’s right. So and it and it takes grit and takes sweat to understand what it what it what it means to be part of the automotive world, yeah. And so to answer your question, we will continue to build Detroit from the Detroit, from inside Detroit. Of course we welcome others we love, we love, we love everybody, right. But Detroit is what made us and Detroit will will flourish with us and working as a community together.

Dan

Yeah.

Hussein

So going back to new lab and that’s what Newlabs about.

 

Dan

Yeah, I love that.

Hussein

Right. Yeah. So to me it’s like you have so and and I and I when I say, OEM’s, I’ll talk about North American OEM, right, right.

Rachel

Yeah, yeah.

Hussein

But other OEMs as well because you earlier you said like a lot of companies outside of Metro Detroit will take advantage of the people inside of it because they they have the network, right? Right. So when I talk about the OEM, I’ll talk about the North American OEM’s and I’m saying, hey, you know, you have the people that you need here.

Rachel

Yeah.

Hussein

Take advantage of it and let it lift as they understand that world.

Dan

Yeah, well, yeah. And and this is actually, this sounds so much like we have we have one client who’s a software consultancy for the kind of future of automotive. And this is something that they’ve been talking about a lot recently too it’s just that especially in kind of where your background lies in software development. We have automotive software engineers here who understand the quality, the safety, the testing, the engineering like rigor that need to go into these software systems and not that Silicon Valley can’t provide some of that, but they don’t have the same kind of background or the same kind of long expertise like we’ve got the talent here to like service that baseline I guess for yeah.

Rachel

Well, it means more too. I think. I come from a family of both. My parents worked at Ford for their entire careers. My grandfather worked for Oldsmobile, right? Like I could go back tons of others.

Dan

Generations, yeah.

Rachel

Yeah, whatever. But I think there is something to be said about when someone wants to go into software engineering in Detroit that is here, goes to school here. They’re thinking about, I want to go to software engineering and do something in automotive, right. Like you kind of have that vision a little bit more versus out on the West Coast. It’s like I wanna go into technology. I wanna go into software if it applies to vehicles, that’s fine, right? But if it applies somewhere else, that’s also fine.

Dan

Yeah.

Rachel

Versus like here, I think you kind of have this underlying if I stay here automotive a good spot, right. Like, yeah. So it’s.

Dan

Yeah, it’s it’s gonna play a role in what I do.

Rachel

I guess that then brings me to a question of what are you excited about HASS Alert doing in Detroit next? Like, what is your if you could say like this is the vision I have for HASS Alert in Detroit, what is that? Dream big.

Hussein

Dream big. It is to announce both the major OEM’s in this area outside of Stellantis that they they adopted, HASS Alert. And we’re close.

Rachel

Yeah. OK.

Dan

OK.

Hussein

And we’re close. Something I wanted to touch on is I’m a spiritual person and you know, God has guided me throughout this whole process. So one thing to give back to the people, as I always try to help and guide and give give advice.

Dan

Right.

Hussein

When you’re in, because you’re part of the Metro Detroit area or when you’re part of Metro Detroit area, you’re immediately touching automotive. Yeah, because you don’t realize that automotive. Yes, it’s tech. But when you realize that it’s innovation, when you realize that it’s next Gen. that it’s that it’s creating the future. You’re like, OK, you want to be a part of that? Because it is the future, right? When we’re talking about, you know, advanced technology where where, you know, just take HASS Alert for example is fire truck is talking to a vehicle. Yeah. When we say talking, there’s communication back and forth.

Dan Yeah

Hussein

You know, and so that communication is advanced. It’s been it’s this V2X technology. This V2X technology has been is is has been in the industry for 15 years. HASS Alert was able to make it happen.

Dan

Yeah.

Because of the initiation in Detroit, HASS Alert was initiated in Detroit. Then they moved to Chicago. Now they’re back here.

Rachel

Right.

Hussein

So keep that in mind.

Dan

And full circle moment, yeah.

Hussein

Exactly. And that’s same thing for me, right? Personally. Yeah. Kicked off in, in in Detroit. I was born here and then boom went all the way around, freaking West Coast, East Coast all around.

Rachel

Yeah.

Dan

Yeah.

Hussein

United States, Korea, right, cause I reported to Korea at one point.

Rachel

Yep.

Hussein

And then I come back here because this is where it’s where it’s happening. This is where it’s gonna happen.

Dan

Yeah, something about it brings people back in. So so we we like to do kind of a general closing question that that ties into something that you just said of of kind of a piece of advice here, but you know, looking back to yourself just coming out of Wayne State or wherever you were at this time, maybe

Rachel

At 21.

Dan

Yeah, at 21, what is one thing that you would go back and tell yourself just starting out your career in automotive kind of what advice would you give yourself in the future?

Rachel

Knowing what you know now.

Dan

Yeah.

Hussein

Damn, I would just honestly, it’s the the the journey I took is so powerful in my opinion, very humbly. I say it very humbly.

Dan

Of course.

Hussein

if I would give advice is probably, just maybe read a little bit more.

Dan

Yeah.

Hussein

Just read right and and not read in a way where you know it’s like a chore, but more like read.

Rachel

Be curious.

Hussein

Yes, yes, because but. But but I I look back at it. So when I was 21 and I started at Wayne State, my goal was to finish.

Dan

Right.

Hussein

Because I didn’t have the luxury of just going to school.

Rachel

Yeah.

Hussein

I had to work full time. Yeah. And you know, I I, my, my. My my personal family situation as a as a kid, you know, we’ll keep that out.

Dan

Sure.

Hussein

But I had to work full time when I was getting into engineering and the amount of time that you technically need to put into engineering is a lot of hours.

Rachel

Yeah.

Dan

yeah.

Hussein

I wasn’t able to do that. So I don’t know how God created the path for me to pass, but I did and it was a lot of hard work. I I would work 16 hours days so to to make ends meet and try to finish college right? So but I didn’t have time to read but now if I was 21 right I would say find at least 30 minutes in that crazy schedule that you have and read. Something to my first interview. I’d I’d like to share that it was it was at Hyundai.

Dan

OK.

Hussein

And he’s a very close friend of mine right now. OK. We stayed in touch after Hyundai. My manager, he who interviewed me.

Rachel

Yeah.

Hussein

He’s like, so what’s your GPA and the question caught me off guard, right?

Rachel

Yeah. You always hear employers don’t really care what the GPA is as long as you graduate, right?

Hussein

Yeah exactly.

Rachel

You’re like crap.

Hussein

So I told him my GPA. Was he’s like, damn, why is it like that? Yeah, I’m like, well, can I get a marker? I’ll write. I’ll write down on the board to, you know, what my schedule looks like. So I started writing on the board what I do every day and He’s like damn bro and you passed engineering? So. So it was tough. It was tough.

Dan

Right, right.

Rachel

But it also taught you work ethic. I think that it’s has given you a drive to get to where you are now, to hustle and understand the value of it. It it’s you can’t teach that you either have it and you do it or you don’t.

Hussein

That’s 100% right.

Dan

Well, it’s work ethic, but it’s also like there’s some some other life skills or even just job skills in there. I mean it’s priority prioritization.

Rachel

Yeah.

Dan

It’s time management. It’s understanding I have to do this now so I can do this later.

Hussein

That’s right.

Dan

Like being able to structure your day and kind of think critically about, you know, what has to happen, what’s nice to have and what what you need to get.

Rachel

Get done tomorrow.

Hussein

By yeah, yeah. And that’s the Detroit grit I was mentioning early. Yeah, we have that. Yeah, right. And so and back, I don’t know what is it 10 years now since like more over over 10 years when I graduated, Detroit was different.

Dan

That’s for sure, yeah.

Hussein

So I would drive down here, right So you know what I wouldn’t want to talk about the past Detroit too much, but yeah.

Dan

Yeah, right. We’re talking future here.

Hussein

But like it was, it was truly building that thick skin that gets you into the automotive world that you know that so that’s what I tell my 21 year old self.

Rachel

Yeah.

Dan

All right.

Rachel

I love it. It’s great. I love it. Well, thank you so much for coming on. I feel like we love talking automotive. We love talking Detroit

Dan

Always.

Rachel

So I feel like in general.

Dan

Yeah, we’ll have to come check you out at Newlab sometime.

Hussein

Anytime you guys can come to this concourse and let me explain this concourse, if I may, I know you you just told me thank you.

Dan

No, no. Keep going.

Rachel

You’re good.

Hussein

So the concourse our let. So the the term was was a was a term that was not in the automotive world, but the automotive world adopted it. So Ford has its concourse. Multiple OEMs have.

Dan

Yeah. The M1 and all things.

Hussein

HASS Alert has a concourse Newlab.

Dan

OK.

Hussein

Aand that’s where we have all of our different V2X entities on display and actually communicating and I will definitely walk you all through every single V2X entity that we have communicating to cars that are in the lab as well. We have two bays and both vehicles are communicating to the safety cloud, HASS Alert safety cloud.

Dan

Cool.

Hussein

And they’re sending information back and forth to all the different V2X entities that we have in the lab and its also in production.

Dan

Okay Yeah, yeah, yeah. I definitely want to check this out.

Rachel

Yeah, that’d be very cool to see. For sure. Yeah. I haven’t been to Newlab either, so I’d love to get over there.

Dan

We’ll take you up on that.

Rachel

Yeah, yeah.

Hussain

All right. And we gotta we.

Dan

Gotta get it out for sure.

Rachel

You know, I know, I know, I know.

Dan

All right, we’ll make it out. Well, thank you again, Hussein.

Rachel

Thanks Hussein.

Hussain

Thank you.

Rachel

Thank you again Hussein for joining us. I always love when we get people in the office too.

Dan

Yeah. Yeah, it is nice to be kind of face to face.

Rachel

It’s nice to do in person. So if you haven’t been over to Michigan Central.New lab area. Go check it out. I’m going to check it out and then take them up on that offer.

Dan

Yeah. Yeah. We gotta get over there soon.

Rachel

And if you’re in the automotive industry or you’re in tech and looking to be an automotive or you’re just in tech and think you might like automotive or wouldn’t want to just check it out.

Dan

Yeah, yeah.

Rachel

There really is alot to do within technology and automotive nowadays. So, maybe connect with Hussein sure he’d love to chat.

Dan

Check out HASS Alert. We’ll link them below. Yeah.

Rachel

Yeah. See you next time.

Dan

See ya.