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In the debut episode of frankly…

Dan Horn and Rachel Burnard talk with the dynamic duo of Franco CEO Tina Kozak and President and COO Tina Sullivan.

From their first jobs as managers of rival ice cream shops to what success means to them in agency leadership, Tina and Tina take you through the journey that brought them to owning and running Detroit’s longest-standing communications agency.

Plus, job seekers in the integrated communications field will hear from two agency leaders on tips to help nail the interview process.

You’ll also get to know Franco’s Integrated Media Consultant and Forbes Contributor Ed Garsten and get introduced to his standing segment, Tales from the Beat.


Be sure to rate, review, subscribe… and help us settle the great ice cream debate on social! Tune in every other Wednesday, subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts (Spotify | Apple Podcasts).